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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 21, 2011 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

Best DP release! MY FAVORITE DARK STAR EVER! It's fucking perfect. A little after the half hr mark, Jerry plays some of the interesting and melodic phrases every laid down on a DS, and Phil is right there with him. Then it goes into one of the greatest Dew's ever.

I could talk about this show forever but don't want to take up a whole thread here. I can't recommend the DS>Dew enough. It perfectly encapsulates what they are all about in perhaps my favorite 49 minutes and 17 seconds of music ever played.

Listening to the DS again now. It just never gets old.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

hmm. i guess nobody else likes this show

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

didnt see this thread.

I agree with your statements. The DS > Dew is beyond amazing. I played it the whole way through today for the first time in a while. That section of music was one of my earliest ventures pre 74. It was my first favorite early dew, I now think 72 was the pinnacle for that song. I also find the jamming of TOO, DS and playing during 1972 to be mind blowing. I love the sound of the jams they played in this year, even more so sept to dec of 72. They all have a relatively consistent vibe/sound to them which is jazzy and just perfect.

And yea, the jam at the end of DS. Wowwy wow.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

"They all have a relatively consistent vibe/sound to them which is jazzy and just perfect."

"I like the blues, but its just too stagnant for me. Same with jazz."

You confuse me sometimes

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

lmao. Well take a typical jazz song, usually you have one person improvising while everyone else is in machine mode. I think the music would be better if everyone started improvising. Same with blues.

The jazzy vibe to which I refer is mostly from the single drummer. Bill had jazz skills and beyond. The vibe to a lot of these 72 jams are "jazzy" IMO and mostly due to him and keith. What they are playing is not jazz tho. But it is highly influenced from jazz and at times sounds like some standard jazz.

BTW I like jazz, I go to a local jazz bar on the weekends to see jazz bands and typically avoid the jam bands during the week. Now are you confused?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

I figured that's what you meant but I had to bust your chops a bit first. The jazz created by the Dead deserves its own genre name. Straight jazz can get boring. I like fusion. Scofield certainly doesn't bore me. Saw him play with the ABB recently. They jammed out a ridiculous half hr Elizabeth Reed unlike anything I've ever heard. Scofield was so happy just to be on stage with the brothers.

And yes I'm now confused once again. You don't like to play jazz but like listening to some more modern jazz?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 9:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: Philly Spectrum

I do like jazz. But like you said, it can get boring. My criticism of jazz is that there is too steady a beat. But i do love the improv that goes down, i just want MORE. I go to that jazz bar when I'm down in the city. But whenever I'm out on the town, which is pretty regular, I always try to get my friends to go with me. Also had a date or two there. Best set I've ever seen was piano, guitar, sax, bass and drums. But when I put on music, its always dead with a pinch of phish (maybe more like a crumb).

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